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Most of my online friends are rationalist-adjacent, so I suppose that makes me rationalist-adjacent-adjacent. Thus:
Hello everyone, I'm

sophus! I'm from the glowfic corner of the rodent-sphere. If you know me, it's probably from Amentumblr; I'm also Sophus#7079 on Discord and

sophus-b on realblr if you've met me there.

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The tumblr function that I most miss here on Dreamwidth is the like button; it was nice to have a low spoons way to show my appreciation of someone's post. However, I've anecdotally heard that some people are using comments with only "+1" and/or "<3" as a kludgy equivalent.

I know that executive dysfunction is fairly common amongst my corner of the diaspora, at least, and I think this idea merits discussion: adopting this, or a similar social norm for the community here would be valuable. I like positive feedback in any form, and I know many others here do too, so a solution that makes it easier to give positive feedback would be extremely useful.

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From:

empresszo

+1

... Also welcome!! I do this sometimes but hesitate because it's low-information and low-effort, even though I personally like giving and receiving them. I think the "people making a pinned post about the types of comments they welcome" idea is a good idea/norm - I'd do it more (where I know it's welcome) and not (where it isn't), instead of my current (and silly!) method of "commenting '+1', but only sometimes, self-consciously, depending on which way the wind blows".

From:

florescent_luminescence

Oh I like the <3 idea. I've said elsewhere that +1 feels weird and <3 is pretty much the same thing but I think <3 feels enough like a normal heart-shaped like button to be a good option.

From:

lunartulip

Have some positive feedback! The +1s and <3s are a good norm and I don't think I've previously encountered them since starting to pay attention to Dreamwidth so I'm glad you brought them up.

From:

king_of_men

I do not want this to become a norm; comments take up space. Having to scroll through multiple one-line, zero-information comments would *drastically* lower the UI experience of this place for me.

From:

isaacsapphire

Similar to Reddit, you can collapse comments or only view top level comments. Possibly a norm of all "+1" type comments to be made on a thread below the first one would be a good compromise?

From:

king_of_men

That could work, although it does mean that comments cannot be liked. I'm fine with that, but people who want to be able to +1 may not be.

From:

flamingsword

Why would you not be able to plus one a comment? If the people giving a plus one to the post all do so on the first post to relay that, then any other plus ones on a comment downstream from that would be about the comment.

From:

mindstalk

While it's not a practical issue on most posts, LJ/DW code pre-collapses comment threads when there are more than 50 total comments, so a slew of minimal comments is potentially annoying.

Combined what king_of_men said, I'd suggest adding "+1" if there are no other comments or very few, so there's some feedback, but refraining if 'several' starts being applicable.

Edited Date: 2018-12-22 05:43 am (UTC)

From:

flamingsword

Different journal styles also auto-collapse posts. You can try playing around with that.

From:

pseudonym_loving_magpie

Agree on the like button, and I've got a sticky post on my blog welcoming people to do it when in my blog. I also noticed we can include emoji characters, e.g. ❤️, but I won't particularly advocate for that as it's harder to type.

I started thinking about how to limit the clutter if you get a lot of like on the post.
First idea, the poster makes a comment to be a "like" thread for their post. But no, as a poster I wouldn't want to do that.
Second idea, later likes all post under the first like to keep it in on thread. Not sure if I like that option or not.
Third idea, when making the first like, you make a like thread (and either in the same comment or one under it, put their like indicator). Something like "Like thread: <3". Then other people can put their likes under the like thread.

I kind of like that third idea for a way to like a post.

From:

empresszo

I really like the third idea, but it still misses the feature of "liking someone's commentary on the post" and worry it requires too much coordination to reach popular use.

From:

pseudonym_loving_magpie

From:

flamingsword

If all the likes are on the like thread, then other likes under other comments would be for the comment and not the post.

From:

empresszo

That definitely works, and I'd use it, but worry it looks worse (than the likes thread for a whole post does) for some reason. Mostly because a likes-thread-comment for the post is easy to scroll by and be done with, but a likes-thread-comment for a comment would end up splitting earlier and later responses to it.

Then again, reading/replying to individual threads seems like a way around that, sort of. It's just not as smooth.

These sorts of things make me wonder whether there's enough popular demand to justify investigating how difficult implementing likes would be, and what 'next steps' might be after that (like starting a bounty, maybe).